The long wait

The long wait

I saw this lady in a small city while I was traveling to Ilo city in the coast, with eyes in a patient waiting. By the way the lady is working, I think measuring the time and frequency of busses I clarify this because she’s not in poverty, she’s a lady with clean clothes. It’s sad when photographers from our capital likes to shot ancient people and show them as homeless (and sometimes tourists as well :S) even worse: they exaggerate the wrinkles and the contrast to exploit a image of misery that didn’t exist in first place.

33 thoughts on “The long wait

    1. Here is the answer dear friend: I just searched photographer plus homeless and as you can see this is a fashion trend. Besides our native culture has this thing were people from the capital thinks we should be poor “but noble” (the good savage?) so if we use our party clothes and show a miserable aspect (the dirtier the better for tourism) then they can get “artistic” photographs… We are not allowed to progress and use current technology it seems, XD
      Thanks for the compliment, hoping all is well :-)

    1. Hello Ulli, I think she is measuring time.
      Well, I think in Europe there is another way to see public spaces, in Peru and American countries usually everything in public space is allowed to be photographed or recorded (I understand in some European and Asian countries only the copyrighted work of architects could be photographed), me myself have been photographed in public by strangers. In this case I think she didn’t know, for that reason I tagged it as street and not portrait. I put photographs of myself as well :P

      1. Hello Francis,
        thank you for explaining :-)
        In Europe the copyright is really complicated. We have something that we call “the right to our own image”. That means, in public space you can also take photos with people. But if the statement of a photo changes important without a photographed person, you have to accept that right. So if I would take a photo like yours, I should have to ask the person before.
        Another example is the “Eiffelturm” in Paris. You can take photos to publish as much as you want as long as the tower isn’t illuminated. Mr. Eiffel is more than 70 years dead. This is the period in which the artwork is protected. But the illumination is another artwork and the artist of this is still alive. So you need a permission to take photos to publish.
        It’s really complicated – that’s more simple in your country :-)
        Have a great day,

      2. Thanks very much, Ulli. If someday I get to travel to the old continent I will check the laws and traditions to respect them. As it should be done by every visitant.
        I’m not sure to understand the phrase “if the statement of a photo changes important without a photographed person” please, I beg your pardon but my English still is a bit basic -_-
        Northern countries in Europe have fame to be quite respectful of laws, but in Peru we still have problems of corruption so we, the people, don’t allow the government to forbid the right to photograph, record or use the public space. For example if a government authority is using an official car for a personal business we need to photograph to send it to the public opinion. If you were here you could take a picture in the street and, as I did when that happened, I wouldn’t say anything because it’s the public space of all. The only time photographs in public space are not tolerated are when they are made in a context of stalking, sexual harassment or spying.
        Said that I wasn’t sure about the rights you mention because several tourists Europeans take literally millions of photographs of us, specially when we use our traditional clothes, also the internet is plenty of romantic photographs of Eiffel tower at night, being the most memorable when there were fireworks and several fellow bloggers from France shared their snapshots. Even more I see bridges and notable buildings from famous architects photographed without indicating the authority of the design. When I shot cities, because I’m architect and not photographer, I take my time to search the designers to credit them. In my own buildings I consider the interior space is the private life of my customers but the facades are a contribution to the people and the city so I wouldn’t be bothered to be them photographed. According to the blogs I read sometimes it seems in Europe things are so simple as in our countries. I have photographed in Chile (only military property is forbidden and just partially), Bolivia (banks are forbidden for security) and my country, Peru, and in the three countries the public space is considered a free space to photograph. I understand this is a cultural difference with Europe and I respect that, as wrote at the beginning I wouldn’t brake the traditions there to impose the traditions here.
        Thank you for your time, Ulli. Hoping all’s right.

      3. Thank you, Francis. It’s a great pleasure to read your patient explanations.
        Your english is much more than basic. But we both are not an english-native-speaker ;-)
        What I try to say is, that our copyright (we call it “Urheberrecht”) is really complicated and lot’s of us here do not know what’s allowed and what’s not :-(
        Especially modern smartphones and social media entrap to do something without reflectioning if it is allowed. We have big discussions about law and internet …
        Sure you find a lot of photos of the illuminated Eiffeltower in the internet. If no one takes exception to the photos, it’s allright. But in Europe law offices have specialised to find such – and other (music-downloads) – violation of existing law to demand an expensive compensation. –
        I try conforming to the law and proof my photos before publishing. But I’m not a lawer. –
        “Statement of a photo”: Let’s take “The long wait” for example. Do you think the photo has the same quality/predication without the lady? If you say “no” it’s the typical case (in Europe) to ask the lady before taking that photo.
        In my opinion the lady is – in a very interesting setting – the quintessence of the photo :-)
        – but maybe I deceive myself.-
        The central ideas of our law are:
        to protect individualism and
        to protect creators of creative work.

        So when you come to Europe don’t hesitate to photograph whatever you want, but have a look what you are publishing – and as a hobby-photographer, who doesn’t earn money with the photos, you often get a permission to take photos if you ask :-)
        Have a great day, Francis.
        Best wishes

      4. Vielen dank für your kind words Ulli, and your valuable explanation. Now I understand perfectly.
        You are totally right, the center in the composition and meaning of the photograph is the lady, if I would be in Europe I couldn’t take it.
        In Peru there is a concept: a city is a place where you give up a degree of individualism to take advantage of the life in a community, so you cannot walk the streets without a shirt because you have to respect the right to the others to don’t be bothered in their sensibility, and certainly you can be recorded. I don’t think I could get to go to Europe, Ulli. Once I met some germans that to get to travel just worked in summer selling little objects, me, as an architect simply couldn’t make the same, it’s the same as to go to the moon, besides I’m afraid of the laws in Europe, it seems everything is forbidden or wrong and with the wave in news about migrants suturing services it seems not the best times to travel, specially in the case of Spain that just simply sometimes don’t even let us put a foot in their country because they’re afraid that we could go to migrant illegally. Nevertheless I’d love to be in the Roman Pantheon, my favorite building ever, but I think it would be more peaceful to know it across your photographs, at least I like very much your photographs because they have this sense of peaceful calm.
        Best wishes and thanks again for your gentle spirit, Ulli.

      5. Yuspagara for your friendly words, Francis. Your German is perfect.

        I think, now we find together with our concepts of copyright because there is a common ethical basic of both and “only” a different interpretation in law.
        “… a city is a place where you give up a degree of individualism to take advantage of the life in a community …”

        I agree – that`s compatible with our law.
        And referring to our discussion that means:
        I’m afraid there are many pictures on the internet, on which I am to see ;-) – that’s legal.
        But I hope I’m not the meaning of the photo, because in Germany no one asked me to take such a photo. –

        The way you think about a visit to Europe makes me very thoughtful.
        Sure, our copyright is difficult, as we have seen ;-) – but actually, most of the migrants want to settle in Germany because of our social legislation.
        You’re right, the giant wave of refugees and asylum-seekers is theme number one in Germany. It’s really a big challenge for our country.
        But if you have the possibility you shouldn’t be afraid and shouldn’t hesitate to visit Europe to see the Roman Pantheon or the Dom of Cologne and many other beautiful things.
        Thank you, Francis, for sharing so much time. Now I have to see your new photo :-)

        Best wishes,

  1. It’s horrible that someone would take a photo of this woman and try to make a foreigner believe that she was impoverished. I know that some travelers like to go to developing countries to “marvel” at the level of poverty, but I think that’s rather strange. I’m so glad there’s someone like you to set us all straight.
    She does look quite tidy perched on her little plastic chair, doesn’t she? :)
    Abrazos y besos, Francis!

    1. Oh, your words made me remember your experiences in street photography in Ecuador ^_^ I think it’s not for bad intention, minutes ago I have just read the chronicle of a young gentleman in India. For some reason he finds the poverty of the people as something that dignifies their kind attitude. I think he feels that a simpler life is something lost in his place of origin so is not that he finds joy in see people living in poverty (lol!) but he is identifying with themselves. Also is common to me read to tourists how disappointed are they when they see people from other parts of the world having gadgets, TVs, etcetera.
      The lady is indeed tidy :-)
      Gracias! abrazos y besos ;-)

      1. The young man in India makes a good point. A simpler life certainly makes you appreciate the little things (smiles, laughter…a good meal)
        Haha! Oh yes! I’ve seen beggars in Nepal whip out a mobile phone so that they could speak with…whomever. All while they were telling me how destitute they were. What a riot! XD

      2. I think is a point with a little defect: usually the people that has that simpler life is because hasn’t choices. When you life in a privileged life you can decide to live complicated or in a simple way. But if you are in a context of poverty then simply you cannot choose, and even more you don’t have perspective to appreciate the positives things in your life.
        Ohh, beggars are people of care, one journalistic investigation showed that beggars in Arequipa city can get incomes for 1500 dollars monthly. There was one beggar whose son take them to his “work” in his truck XD
        Besos :-)

      3. 1500 dollars! That’s scandalous!
        I’m definitely in the wrong business :P
        Besos :)

  2. This is, of course, a beautiful photograph. The texture of the sidewalk, the color of the wood with the color of her shirt, the whole harmony of colors and textures in fact. I feel that the esthetic is also made stronger by the fact that the light colors sort of contrast with the power and grounded feeling that emanates from that woman, the inner strength and wisdom that she clearly holds.
    I also appreciate what you say, Francis, about tourists building legends and making false assumptions.
    And about the photographs and copyright… the same laws exist in my country. That is why, unless I’ve asked, if somebody is at the “heart” of a picture, I make them unrecognizable before publishing it.

    1. Thanks for your compliment about the photograph; your observations about the composition, and thanks for your experience regard the issue.
      I think Canada is farther from us in reference of culture. I’ve been photographed as well and in our system if it’s in the street there is no need for ask permission in Peru, Chile and Bolivia, at least I couldn’t say to nobody to don’t photograph me in the street, I’d feel I’m breaking the freedom of other. And notwithstanding this is not a blog but a diary certainly it’s a public one and I try to respect the traditions of the gentle persons that visit it. So for example I’ve reduced to the natural level themes like sex (my previous blog was about sex and I always protected the identity of my partners, in fact it was centered in me) excessive violence, blood or others.
      To me is not a problem to edit the photographs until the portrait gets unrecognizable, and if it helps to respect the traditions, laws and cultures of my guests then I’m going to change every photograph in this blog (they aren’t so many after all) the next week, tomorrow I’ve to travel :-/
      Hoping everything is well, thank your for your patience, kindness, and good spirit. Take care, Caroline.

  3. Oh, Francis, I never meant to say that you should modify your portraits. Please, leave them as they are. I think laws are mostly there to protect people from abuse. Laws or not, if I felt you were abusing someone, I would certainly suggest you do something to rectify you actions. But I haven’t seen any abusive pictures on your website. And I don’t think anyone would be offended by pictures you might have taken of them – but rather honored.

    1. Don’t worry, it would be for the whole readership. for now I’m reading the law in Canada and it seems outside Quebec if the person is not a photographer then it’s allowed to take photographs without permission in public spaces, instead a photographer requires the permission and a model release. In Quebec the law is similar to Germany and the principle of right to the own image seems to be more protected (both uses aren’t wrong or correct, just is the tradition of different cultures), I’ll search more about the theme.
      Thanks for the compliments, Caroline :-) I appreciate it a lot certainly, but I’m not a photographer, more a snapshoter, I take the pictures usually while I’m traveling in an autobus or a bus, or simply I’m just feel that I’m so stressed that I need to relax so I photograph with the mind in blank to don’t be worry. Some people are cool just being in a photo, others could be quite crazy, but perhaps they wouldn’t be honored, I’m just a guy with a point and shoot ^x^

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